christianity is psychotic

Just wanna put my 2 cents in here. If you think Christianity is psychotic please look into the Talmud. I'd argue out of the 3 abrahamic religions, christianity has the least offending stuff to people's lives. The current modern chrisianity that christians believe in doesn't seem very harmful. I'd like to mention that while the bible has a lot of contradictions, I think that people can pick and choose what to believe. For example, when some kid asked the pope if his non believing father was in hell, the pope said no. I'm not an expert on this so please don't come at me for not knowing stuff. And islam.. Your post was long, but I think if you read the Quran and the Hadiths your post could have a reading length of 7 hours. I.E. What kind of prophet marries at 6 year old!??!?!

I'd like add since it came up, comparatively on a philosophical Christianity is a solid as it can get. I do want to also say that I'm not of the belief that the bible in anyway contradicts its self. The old testament is largely an account telling of the many times people transgressed the laws of God, and how they suffered subsequently. A recurring theme is how the prophets were continually chosen and how eventually people would stray from God. So something that may be used out of context would be like saying "God allows or tells you to have slaves." This would be a good example of taking something out of context. There are indeed guidelines that teach you how you might treat a servant, but that does not really equal to out modern understanding of slavery. I'd add to that God did not tell people to have servants either, this would totally be a result of freewill. (it was Christian nations that would also put an end to servants while Muslims still practice it to this day) There are also themes of sexual violence and child sacrifice in the bible but it's pretty clear that the bible says they are not good things.

 Since I glossed over it I want to go back to the Talmud briefly and then the Quran. Modern Judaism is not the same as it was before Christ. The Jewish people back the, while many did not, rejected Christ as the messiah and had him crucified via the Roman. Fun fact when the bible refers to the nation of "Israel" or "the new Israel" this is in reference to those who would come to be Christians, not to those who would rejects Christ as Jesus specifically foretold that the old temple would be destroyed. Modern Jews believe that Christ is burning in feces and that non Jews are like cattle. (just like Muslims) It's in their books if you really want more on that. 

 The "prophet" Mohammed came something like 600 years after Christ and claimed that he had received the world of God and would go on to make the absolute abominations of a religion called Islam. Making claims that Christ was not divine (like the Jewish people did) and that he did not really die on the cross. Islam also teaches you not to question the faith while Christianity encourages one to reflect upon and  meditate on the word of God. Neat fact is that the bible actually had already addressed something like this. Galatians 1:8:"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed". 

I'd totally look into these things though if you are curious rather than just take my word for it. I used to be more than critical of Christianity until I came to terms with the fact that I didn't actually know as much as I thought about it. 

I remember when we had a similar thread like 7 years ago and I don't wana go back and read what I wrote but I've grown as a person since then. I completely agree with you. For some reason i hesitate to call myself an ex catholic but i'm sure I will start soon. I went to bible school and was confirmed and everything. Looking back, I am sure something sinister was going on back then, at the time as a child I didn't feel that way at all but. There were many times we were alone with those adults. It's creepy looking back and thankfully i think nothing bad happened to me but it could've to others. Suddenly the priest was replaced with no warning and the congregation continued as nothing happened. I wonder why...

COUPLED There definitely is something off I tend to feel when around organised religion. The way I see it, I can be into the faith, but the idea of priests and stuff I find a bit... cringe?

malmon just another hierarchy

COUPLED Yeah, I suppose so. I wouldn't say that hierarchy is always bad, but I suppose for me it's mostly the idea of this one person supposedly having the authority to speak for God or Christ. That said, it's been a very long time since I had any exposure to the Church, so much of the impression I have of it was from when I was an angsty teenager. Maybe I'll visit the Catholic Church in my town someday...

malmon Too many people I know that's had something bad happen to them have turned religious and into a different person. Not that change is bad but it can be

COUPLED Care to tell me more? I'd find it an interesting topic ^^

mauhs Nothing that I really want to voice on this forum - ain't the place for it~

mauhs Actually, now I'm curious, why study the Talmud if you're an atheist?

mauhs Well then you're certainly more mature than I was back then ^^'7

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Which Bibles are you guys reading?

Zacharias 13-3
And it shall come to pass, that when any man shall prophesy any more, his father and his mother that brought him into the world, shall say to him: Thou shalt not live: because thou hast spoken a lie in the name of the Lord. And his father, and his mother, his parents, shall thrust him through, when he shall prophesy.

Malachias 4:5
Behold, I will send you Elias the prophet, before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.

Galatians 1-8
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.

Wasn't Elijah some centuries before Jesus? Or is the interpretation that Jesus was a sort of reincarnation of Elijah?

mauhs but what makes someone a false prophet?

I am not christian, but I would regard it as an adaptive thing to be a cristian.
Being a subject of higher power or a servant is paradoxically empowering to a person's life;
and the example of Jesus divinity is something anyone could conceivably achieve and i feel that cultivating towards something above humanity is something necessary for a society and/or people , and Jesus in particular is probably the best example for divinity to follow.
Believing and internalizing that every good act will be rewarded, and evil one punished is good for a society ;
I regard a shame-based society as inferior to a guilty-based one.
heaven is supposed to be the earth we are living on right now, so it implicitly pushes you to care for the place you live and nature.

a society made of me would probably be more psychotic than one made by christians.
For example, I don't have any moral problem with eugenics I mainly just dislike the people espousing the idea;
Entertaining eugenicism, I feel gets you closer to psychopathy rather than morally rejecting the idea outright.

malmon if what they say violates pre existing commandments or just doesn't come true

malmon
Revised Standard Version, based on the American Standard Version

malmon I guess just to prophesize and be a spiritual role model