This is something that's been on my mind for months now, but I've been staying silent on the issue to try and avoid going full keyboard warrior in our Lewd community. I just can't do that anymore though, because this needs to be said. I am fucking sick of seeing all this anti-liberal, anti-Democrat, white supremacist propaganda in the Slack/Discord chatrooms. (and inevitably, whatever platform we move to in the near future ) There's been a handful of members doing this, but I'm gonna go right ahead and single you out on this, @[deleted] , because it's become painfully obvious to me that you are the primary drive behind the problem. Almost every time I see you in the chat, you are slandering liberals, blacks, immigrants or pretty much anyone that tends to lean to the political left. In all honesty, I'd rather that politics weren't in the community at all, but I do respect that we have the Serious Discussion and /pol/ group as our designated political forums. Except, here's the problem: It still keeps leaking into the #lounge chat and subforums where it doesn't belong at all. When I first joined Lewd.sx, I came here primarily for two reasons: To share and discuss our passion for anime/manga/hentai and the like To make some friends. And maybe play some video games with said new friends For myself, this forum is an escape from the troubles of the real world. I don't have to think about work, or my personal life, or any problems at all. I can just come here for that sweet dose of 2D qt and chill out with other Lewdies in peace. I did NOT join Lewd.sx to get sucked into bipartisan wars on political issues. Yet I repeatedly encounter this the more active I am here, and I gotta tell you, it is one hell of a buzzkill. It's getting to the point where I want to just mute all messages and posts from you Saikou, and the same goes for any others that follow your example. In my opinion, this sort of divisive content you keep pushing can only damage our community. It splits Lewd into "us" vs "them," and I can only imagine how that must look to all of our new members joining. (I seriously doubt that it makes a good first impression) If I really wanted to get into political debates, there are plenty of other places I could go to besides a hentai enthusiast forum. You're probably wondering why I'm going public with this if it's escalating into a personal issue between myself and another forum member. The reason for that is I don't feel that keeping this between the two of us will actually get anything done. I want this addressed by our fellow members and staff, I want to know if I am alone or if anyone agrees that 1. These discussions have been leaking into forums/channels they don't belong and 2. If anyone else has found issue with another member's comments to be racist or bigoted I really didn't want to stir up a commotion around this, but here I am writing this thread. I can't stop anyone from feeling or believing a certain way, but for fuck's sake, please know when to keep it to yourself and don't try to turn the entire community into a political board. If you must share your views on something political, go start a thread in Serious Discussion or /pol/, and NOWHERE ELSE. /rant

Or you could go start some threads on USMessageBoard, @[deleted] There are plenty of politically minded forums for you to post on if only you performed a simple google search, so the complaint outlined above is perfectly reasonable in my opinion. Consider this rant undersigned by myself.

I completely agree. The primary reason I removed the #serious channel from the Discord chat is that it was being used for nothing but /pol/ related things. On the forums, /ebola/ was pretty much made to accomodate Saikou's pol/redpill threads.

am fucking sick of seeing all this anti-liberal, anti-Democrat, white supremacist propaganda what about anti-conservative, anti-republican, anti-racist propaganda?

People with this view is why we used to have the #pol channel on slack, and after the eventual dissipation of both #pol and #serious, there was no place for that kind of content on the instant messaging platform, so I dont blame @[deleted] and whoever else for speading it to #lounge. You do need to consider, #Lounge is for general discussion. You wont always see content you like. Like, take for instance, me and losi talking about tech all the time there, and others chasing us out. Since the general direction of the site isnt going towards technology, its a legitimate complaint to send tech discussion elsewhere, however, #lounge is supposed to be a cover all channel. Tech, /pol/ discussion or dildos, etc. are allowed there, in minute doses however. Targeting one part of what is basically the whole rainbow is a bit heretic. While I do support your cause, /pol/ discussion is indeed allowed, however given the general dislike of it, I shall consider making a channel to direct such discussions there to be delegated in bulk. TL;DR Please, be considerate of others, no matter how much you dislike what they're talking about in a general discussion channel.

19700 am fucking sick of seeing all this anti-liberal, anti-Democrat, white supremacist propaganda what about anti-conservative, anti-republican, anti-racist propaganda? I have never once seen this on Lewd. Nobody else seems to share politics as much as Saikou and I'm only describing what I have experienced so far. As I stated in my post, I'd rather keep politics off the board or at least contained where it belongs. If you can find some examples of anti-conservative propoganda being spewed, by all means link me.

Bad example, we actually have a tech room open and available.

19704 becomes propaganda once it goes against the current opinion doesn't it? Denying mainstream ideas is propaganda, takes no activism confirming what is already dogma. Banning right wing positions instead of politics altogether, all based on feelings? Pathetic.

I haven't seen much politics here, but that's probably because I'm new. I do agree that it should be kept out though.

19706 19704 Banning right wing positions instead of politics altogether, all based on feelings? Pathetic. First of all, I stated multiple times that I dislike the idea of politics in general on our board because of its divisiveness, but I want to keep politics on their designated boards. (because apparently there is no stopping it from popping up) Secondly, there is a big difference between expressing a political position and just outright slandering a race or political party, which is the problem I've noticed and I am addressing. I'll say it again, I have yet to see anyone in our community slander conservatives, and nobody is calling for a ban on right wing positions. I'm calling to keep politics out of #lounge because I find it disruptive from general chat.

[RANT] Can we PLEASE keep politics to their respective subforums?

lithium

19971
Either ban all politics, or don't ban any politics, left-wing ideas are as political as right wing ones, evne if not "propaganda".
Personal stances on anti-racist organisations aside, if you want to discuss that it's better to do it in a less hysterical context (start another thread).

Hugboxes where everyone's feelings are safeguarded are a lot worse than places with light-hearted (and probably not so much) banter.
Politics are polarising, this does not mean either position should be suppressed, if you have to do it, acting like a cunt is what should be banned, not disagreeing with affirmative action, privilege theory, or anything of the sort.

lithium

19971
You're assuming personal attacks where there are none.
Criticizing actions is not criticizing people. Banning speech out of feelings is disgusting, end of.

None_At_All

lithium wrote:
19971
Either ban all politics, or don't ban any politics, left-wing ideas are as political as right wing ones, evne if not "propaganda".
Personal stances on anti-racist organisations aside, if you want to discuss that it's better to do it in a less hysterical context (start another thread).

Hugboxes where everyone's feelings are safeguarded are a lot worse than places with light-hearted (and probably not so much) banter.
Politics are polarising, this does not mean either position should be suppressed, if you have to do it, acting like a cunt is what should be banned, not disagreeing with affirmative action, privilege theory, or anything of the sort.

I think I maybe wasn't clear. I'm in favor of banning all politics that aren't in ebola or politics threads.

EDIT: So do we pretty much agree on that point?

mis

I really don't understand why we need to openly discuss politics in the first place on a forum about lewd anime girls. It doesn't really make sense to drop that the latest genocide in "x" was caused by "x" when people were just discussing what anime to watch a few minutes ago.

You might be entitled to whatever you'd like to say, but think about it - there's much better avenues on where to discuss them. I'm all for free speech and uncensored discussion, but I also agree that politics should be kept to a minimum outside their respective channels and subforums. If you think there's not enough people to discuss about it, start recruiting for the channel/group, or look for more dedicated forums for said topics.

Of course, it's inevitable that it might leak into #general or The Lounge every so often, but that doesn't mean we have to outright stop it on the spot, so long as it stays civil and respectful like any other discussion. If people seem uncomfortable on a certain topic, then it's on you to ease up on it.

lithium

19986
Many matters end up on the political without an express aim.
People's views on sexuality, race, gender identity are going to "cause discomfort" even when somebody isn't meaning to start a discussion about the matter.

It's seriously doubtful that banning "political" posts in a social context where everything's political works.

tn5421

How about you stop posting about a subject outside of the clearly defined area created to cater to your subject? Or is that concept too difficult for you to comprehend?

None_At_All

lithium wrote:
19986
Many matters end up on the political without an express aim.
People's views on sexuality, race, gender identity are going to "cause discomfort" even when somebody isn't meaning to start a discussion about the matter.

It's seriously doubtful that banning "political" posts in a social context where everything's political works.

Taking it to the extreme is not the point. It would make no sense to ban any talk about sexuality in a lewd forum. The point, I think, is keeping Jewish conspiracies and opinions of Immigrants to appropriate sections.

Em.

How about we all just chill? Aside from this thread the forum is very relaxed and on point, don't know about discord though; as I'm not on there.

lithium

19997
Where did anybody mention jewish conspiracies on this forum

the point, I think, is

There's no "point", some want all hate speech banned, some want all politics banned, some want oddly off topic political statements banned. There are no propsitions, just hysterics and threats of "boycotting".

mis

@Em. & @[deleted] Most of what people are talking about mostly refers to chats on discord, really. There hasn't been much problem as of late with the actual forum itself on this topic.

lithium

20006
The screenshots compa-waifu posted seemed pretty tame, nothing to be horrified at if you've been on an imageboard.

mis

lithium wrote:
20006
The screenshots compa-waifu posted seemed pretty tame, nothing to be horrified at if you've been on an imageboard.

Maybe, but keep in mind some people won't have an imageboard mindset - forums are meant for more in-depth discussion than imageboards.

lithium

20010
But that's a chatroom.

tn5421

This isn't an imageboard though, this is a forum.

mis

lithium wrote:
20010
But that's a chatroom.

The community uses both Discord and the forum for avenues of discussion, though. Like you said, the Jewish conspiracies thing might not be discussed on the forum, but it's been brought up in Discord a few times before.

You're right, it might not be that bad compared to being on an imageboard - but the problem being is when people think of it less like a chat and more of an imageboard with freedom to post what they will. This isn't a problem in and of itself, but when the chatroom looks like a /pol/ thread and people bring it up as an issue - like this thread - that's when it becomes a concern.

There's two issues at hand here: one is politics in the forum, which isn't much of a problem of itself - and politics in Discord. Right now, since #pol has now been brought back up again, it should be more contained within discussion.

tn5421

The simple list of rules that neko proposed would work fine for chat. It's the forum that requires additional rules to keep things friendly.

mayunaise

Locked, no reason to keep it open.

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