It's a pretty simple thread and I hope that it will grow some activity and peak some interest. Any valid points or useful information can be linked back and used to make threads to discuss things in further detail. Feel free to share how you feel here, however if you would like to provide details, proof, graphs, data, ect. I highly encourage you to create another thread so that it can be discussed on topic there.

Single payer and other socialist programs. Maybe even eugenics.

23337 Healthcare in the US is a serious issue for me. I just can't understand how people wouldn't be fine with a moderate tax hike in exchange for providing complete medical care to everyone. Or perhaps most would be; it's just that health and prosperity isn't in the best interests of the insurance lobby. I'd welcome a tax hike for improved social services like education and health if I wasn't concerned about how the current taxes are actually being spent. With problems like an overfunded military and overpaid politicians, combined with politicians that care more about maintaining their position than actually doing their job, I really wish I had a say in where my taxes are spent. It's driving me to actually follow politics a little more so i can make an educated vote come election season. 23339 Maybe even eugenics. I'd love to be told i'm wrong about this, but isn't it a known fact that the earth can only support so many humans? I'd imagine that eventually some tough decisions will have to be made with regards to population control, espicially if we keep polluting the environment.

Turquoise wrote: 23337 Healthcare in the US is a serious issue for me. I just can't understand how people wouldn't be fine with a moderate tax hike in exchange for providing complete medical care to everyone. Or perhaps most would be; it's just that health and prosperity isn't in the best interests of the insurance lobby. I'd welcome a tax hike for improved social services like education and health if I wasn't concerned about how the current taxes are actually being spent. With problems like an overfunded military and overpaid politicians, combined with politicians that care more about maintaining their position than actually doing their job, I really wish I had a say in where my taxes are spent. It's driving me to actually follow politics a little more so i can make an educated vote come election season. 23339 Maybe even eugenics. I'd love to be told i'm wrong about this, but isn't it a known fact that the earth can only support so many humans? I'd imagine that eventually some tough decisions will have to be made with regards to population control, espicially if we keep polluting the environment. Americans are real fans of the whole doomsday deal, eh? Yeah, we'll have to take care of that, but I'd let the future governments worry about that, since it's not nearly as close to us as most people would have you believe. They'll be making those tough calls long after we've rotted in the dirt.

The american public education system is a fundamental betrayal of The American Dream and only a small portion of the country seems to realise there is even a problem.

Proprietary software https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/europe-going-kill-free-software-have-you-contacted-your-states-rep

Vosaiu wrote: "Social justice" i.e. raising minorities up by letting them step on the heads of the majority

Social Justice If it's access to opportunity I don't have an issue with it. Unless it involves quotas. My main issue with it are the ideologues, or SJWs, which aren't even representative of those whom they say they're fighting for (most of them tend to be young white guys). They ignore anyone who doesn't fit their narrative (which most of the time disinfranchises some of the same people they're "fighting" for). They aren't even solving the root problems that they are trying to tackle, all their "wins" are superficial (safe spaces don't solve shit, just adding more diversity doesn't solve the lack of diversity, shutting down the other side doesn't mean you're right). The worst part though is that they're just hypocrites and lack the self awareness to even realize it. The sad part is that they're actually having a chilling effect in universities and they're trying to expand it into law.

The liberal lash back, american "progressives" have been confused for liberals, causing a lashing out towards all left policies. So the youth of today are moving extremely far right or far left removing any centrist concepts.

People still judge each other based on appearence. As if they're not the same under their's.

Some of society's problems that concern you?

LucianDreamer

This sounds like the whole EU Parliament issue about Article 13 is back on the spotlight and getting closer. I have to put this particular video up to see how serious this is becoming. EU citizens, this might be your last chance to deal with your representatives.

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Backlash

Tang

jesus christ, that chinese woman arrested in canada makes me think world war 3 is just around the corner

malmon

Tang wrote:
jesus christ, that chinese woman arrested in canada makes me think world war 3 is just around the corner

context?

Kukuru

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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/12/05/tech/huawei-cfo-arrested-canada/
arrested for breaching US embargo against Iran which Canada also joined

don't think it'll contribute to starting a war that much

LucianDreamer

The EU can't make promises on whether their Article 13 will make it or reject it come tomorrow and that will be it, but the guy in charge agreed to let over 4 million petitions in since last time in July he didn't. Then, the other night, a large spillage of chocolate and a terrorist attack right near the very building EU Parliament is. This is just another typical bad day in their bloc, urrgh.

EDIT: The E.U. rescheduled their debate on agreeing on the "final language" draft to around January.

Backlash

Anyone else disgusted by the media's addiction to "Perseverance Porn"? You know what I mean, those feel-good stories which, if framed differently, illustrate how society has utterly failed the vast majority of people.

There is nothing "heroic" about having to work after surviving a car accident, or walking twenty-one miles to get there, or relying on charitable donations to not wither away and die from lack of healthcare. Fuck's sake.

malmon

Backlash wrote:
Anyone else disgusted by the media's addiction to "Perseverance Porn"? You know what I mean, those feel-good stories which, if framed differently, illustrate how society has utterly failed the vast majority of people.

There is nothing "heroic" about having to work after surviving a car accident, or walking twenty-one miles to get there, or relying on charitable donations to not wither away and die from lack of healthcare. Fuck's sake.

Ah yes, like those stories about kids running lemonade stands to pay for their parents' cancer treatment or something.

Aiai

malmon wrote:
Backlash wrote:
Anyone else disgusted by the media's addiction to "Perseverance Porn"? You know what I mean, those feel-good stories which, if framed differently, illustrate how society has utterly failed the vast majority of people.

There is nothing "heroic" about having to work after surviving a car accident, or walking twenty-one miles to get there, or relying on charitable donations to not wither away and die from lack of healthcare. Fuck's sake.

Ah yes, like those stories about kids running lemonade stands to pay for their parents' cancer treatment or something.

Thats kinda how i feel about gofundme and stuff, its good to help and stuff, but really its just helping like one of countless others.

They only get any help in the first place because they just happend to have the most appealing story. It really shouldn't be down to charity to help people in these situations.

Like you feel good for helping, and you should, but really there are loads of people in that same situation that just are gonna go completely ignored.

Backlash

malmon wrote:
Backlash wrote:
Anyone else disgusted by the media's addiction to "Perseverance Porn"? You know what I mean, those feel-good stories which, if framed differently, illustrate how society has utterly failed the vast majority of people.

There is nothing "heroic" about having to work after surviving a car accident, or walking twenty-one miles to get there, or relying on charitable donations to not wither away and die from lack of healthcare. Fuck's sake.

Ah yes, like those stories about kids running lemonade stands to pay for their parents' cancer treatment or something.

Aye, aye.

Aiai wrote:
malmon wrote:
Backlash wrote:
Anyone else disgusted by the media's addiction to "Perseverance Porn"? You know what I mean, those feel-good stories which, if framed differently, illustrate how society has utterly failed the vast majority of people.

There is nothing "heroic" about having to work after surviving a car accident, or walking twenty-one miles to get there, or relying on charitable donations to not wither away and die from lack of healthcare. Fuck's sake.

Ah yes, like those stories about kids running lemonade stands to pay for their parents' cancer treatment or something.

Thats kinda how i feel about gofundme and stuff, its good to help and stuff, but really its just helping like one of countless others.

They only get any help in the first place because they just happend to have the most appealing story. It really shouldn't be down to charity to help people in these situations.

Like you feel good for helping, and you should, but really there are loads of people in that same situation that just are gonna go completely ignored.

That's something I often think about, myself. People aren't readily willing to part with money, so it takes charisma to ask and get it. But an individual who is in dire straits and suffering has no opportunity to foster that charisma, and especially when the malus involves constant physical pain, our natural instinct is to discard charisma to get the help we need.

Charity, and by extension capitalism as a whole, is such a cruel system. It forces every act of mutual aid to be a quick calculus of one's time and money.

Impulsive

Im really concerned about how the Internet allows young people to develop really unhealthy attitudes and views on life. I mean obviously hate speech exists and weird fetishes are just part of life, but it seems like there are tons of communities online which are devoted to 'deviants' in some shape or form that encourage their members to disassociate with the rest of society and become less compassionate towards other people. Alt-right groups are probably the first ones that come to mind, but I think the problem is way more pervasive than just politics and probably affects all sorts of communities online.

Tang

Impulsive wrote:
Im really concerned about how the Internet allows young people to develop really unhealthy attitudes and views on life. I mean obviously hate speech exists and weird fetishes are just part of life, but it seems like there are tons of communities online which are devoted to 'deviants' in some shape or form that encourage their members to disassociate with the rest of society and become less compassionate towards other people. Alt-right groups are probably the first ones that come to mind, but I think the problem is way more pervasive than just politics and probably affects all sorts of communities online.

I tought only I worried about that.

Impulsive

Tang wrote:
Impulsive wrote:
Im really concerned about how the Internet allows young people to develop really unhealthy attitudes and views on life. I mean obviously hate speech exists and weird fetishes are just part of life, but it seems like there are tons of communities online which are devoted to 'deviants' in some shape or form that encourage their members to disassociate with the rest of society and become less compassionate towards other people. Alt-right groups are probably the first ones that come to mind, but I think the problem is way more pervasive than just politics and probably affects all sorts of communities online.

I tought only I worried about that.

You are (never) the only one worrying about something.

Tang

according to current life expectancy i can live at least up to 2060, it makes me wonder what the world will be like by then

llik3

Tang wrote:
according to current life expectancy i can live at least up to 2060, it makes me wonder what the world will be like by then

What's your life expectancy? I'd be about 40 now if my expected end of life was in 2060.

Tang

llik3 wrote:
Tang wrote:
according to current life expectancy i can live at least up to 2060, it makes me wonder what the world will be like by then

What's your life expectancy? I'd be about 40 now if my expected end of life was in 2060.

i'll be 70 in 2060

floattube

Fuck the Supreme Court. This is just step one in oppressing trans individuals in the United States.

malmon

floattube wrote:
Fuck the Supreme Court. This is just step one in oppressing trans individuals in the United States.

What happened? :o

floattube

malmon wrote:
floattube wrote:
Fuck the Supreme Court. This is just step one in oppressing trans individuals in the United States.

What happened? :o

Trans people are no longer allowed to serve in the military. Not that I was ever going to the join the military, but we're still losing our rights because of how we identify.

TTToast

floattube wrote:
Fuck the Supreme Court. This is just step one in oppressing trans individuals in the United States.

I'm with you there, it just doesn't make sense to me why they would rule in favor of it despite the backbone of it being based on something not true. I think it's more of an example of the discrimination of trans people rather than just something that will bring it.

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