Do you believe in god?

by Yoko
  • Rooky_Ghost 07-15-2017, 02:23 AM
    (11-27-2016, 03:03 AM)GlassMoon Wrote: I'm an atheist but everyone always thinks I'm religious because I'm highly interested in religion's effect on history and art. I've probably read the bible more than any of my Christian friends lol.


    Can relate, agnostic doe
  • Rooky_Ghost 07-15-2017, 02:38 AM
    (03-02-2016, 08:27 PM)Yoko Wrote:
    (03-02-2016, 08:15 PM)akiram13 Wrote: I find it troubling that a lot of people do not have belief in GOD. Is anime or the virtual world more believable?


    That's a bit of a weird comparison, the anime world isn't really something you believe in, but just a form of entertainment.


    weird indeed, but not completely wrong...
    if you choose to "believe" in anime, and accept it as part of your reality (cosmovision), whilst denying "God"(who/what, by the way hasn't been defined by akiram) the condition of real, you are most probably doing so because you have "a reason to believe": your senses.
    you can watch anime, and other people do so, so it's not only in your head, is it?
    and yes, that would eventually lead you to deny realities (realities not real to you, btw) that fail to fit in a material plane, and to accept matter (substance) as the last instance of existence, uncaused, and with intrinsic properties of absolute necessity for reality to be real.
    hence, concepts such as "Mind" "Conscience" and eventually "Freedom" would be pure sh*t, perhaps society's constructs, perhaps not.
    >if we are cause by the interactions of matter only, are we really the cause of our actions, thinkings, and feelings?
    >the answer is no.
  • soulchild 07-23-2017, 01:29 AM
    I believe god exist but he/she probably is just spectating us without any sort of manual interference.
  • Mercurial 07-23-2017, 11:41 AM
    Yeah, I think there's something out there overseeing nature and physics and all. Dunno what it's like or if it even cares about human happiness, but I like to go out on a limb and think it does.
  • nekobe 08-04-2017, 11:47 AM
    Maybe yes, maybe no... agnostic
  • Heidegger 08-08-2017, 03:31 PM
    I just believe in me... Yoko and me
  • Infamia 09-21-2017, 08:45 AM (Edited 09-21-2017, 08:45 AM)
    No, God won't ever be real to me- it's just as real as religion is. It's words, it's theory and it's something some people believe because they want to live a life of which they hope has a meaning/worth because a piece of scripture says so. There's a hard truth and there's the hard debate of whether religion is true per se at all. To anybody asking whether the opposite side can provide proof against God not existing, you might just want to rethink your entire argument
    .
    It's like you starting an argument about something, then having somebody go back over your argument completely miss the point of the argument and then ask you to prove your own (moreover correct and credible) argument as if there's any significance on your point, whereas the other point you're trying to disprove has to prove waaaaay more.

    That's just stupid, don't do it.
  • sval 09-24-2017, 04:20 AM
    I don't believe in one, but I wish I did. I don't want to think I just won't exist after death. I want to believe there is a reason to be a good person that'd give me some advantage in the after life, but I don't.
  • malmon 09-24-2017, 06:59 AM
    (09-24-2017, 04:20 AM)sval Wrote: I don't believe in one, but I wish I did. I don't want to think I just won't exist after death. I want to believe there is a reason to be a good person that'd give me some advantage in the after life, but I don't.


    I like to believe that this is all just a very intricate VR simulation, and when we die, we'll just take our respective headsets off and be like, "woah, that sucked"
  • Infamia 09-28-2017, 10:07 AM
    (09-24-2017, 04:20 AM)sval Wrote: I don't believe in one, but I wish I did. I don't want to think I just won't exist after death. I want to believe there is a reason to be a good person that'd give me some advantage in the after life, but I don't.


    Well you could always think you'll just be reborn and feel the same experience you did in this life when you were born.

    but, the sad feeling is that you'll try to think you'll be able to remember everything when you're born again and it doesn't feel right that you're just going to suddenly forget everything and enter into a different life.

    jeez i wish i knew everything that everyone before me knew.

    maybe i do
  • Saikou 11-10-2017, 02:50 AM (Edited 11-10-2017, 02:52 AM)
    yeah, i do
    i also believe in demons and think vampires might be real
    paranormal/metaphysical stuff piques my interest
    there's no other way to explain my self-experience/past events without god existing
    just because you can't perceive it with human senses doesn't mean it ain't real
  • satoshi 11-10-2017, 03:32 PM
    Agnostic.
  • accelerat0r 11-11-2017, 11:59 AM
    (11-10-2017, 02:50 AM)Saikou Wrote: yeah, i do
    i also believe in demons and think vampires might be real
    paranormal/metaphysical stuff piques my interest
    there's no other way to explain my self-experience/past events without god existing
    just because you can't perceive it with human senses doesn't mean it ain't real


    I believe in vampires and stuff so that I can believe in my waifu

    (unironically, I'm skeptical of paranormal stuff, but I tend to want to believe it's real)
  • Chihiro 11-14-2017, 01:29 PM
    God exists and she is a catgirl!

    Jokes aside, I don’t think I believe in God per se. I do believe in extradimensional species that are above us (they possess more knowledge and abilities than humans), though.
  • gtswaifuism 04-12-2018, 04:41 PM (Edited 04-12-2018, 04:52 PM)
    I respect the point of view of those who do believe in one or more higher beings for philosophical reasons like the simulation hypothesis, but I think even if there was one(or more), it doesn't really matter nor interferes in our lives in any way, like Stephen Hawking, who also didn't believe, said when questioned about God's power: 

    Quote:I don't think it's very useful to speculate about what God might or might not be able to do. Rather, we should examine what he actually does in the universe we live in. All the observations suggest that it operates according to well defined laws. These laws may have been redacted by God, but it seems that he does not intervene in the universe to break the laws, at least not once he set the universe doing.

    Since no higher being intervenes, I don't have to worry about going to any kind of Underworld or supernatural punishment if I don't follow X or Y rule made 3000 years ago for either the best interest of the creators at the time or because of lack of scientific knowledge, or at least this is what I think.

    I like to think that God doesn't exist yet, but technology will eventually create an AI very close to one, increasingly smarter.
  • Impulsive 05-06-2018, 11:21 PM
    Currently consider myself agnostic, but have been considering converting to Christianity for some time now.
  • Amato Masaki 05-08-2018, 08:09 PM
    i do belive in god , but i dont belive in any faith(islam , christiany , hindu , buddha ,etc).
    for some reason...
  • maid.mona 05-12-2018, 06:23 PM
    not reallly.... I want to. I've become a lot more spiritual than I used to be but I don't really know
  • GlassMoon 06-20-2018, 09:21 AM (Edited 06-20-2018, 10:31 AM)
    https://historyforatheists.com

    I found this site the other day and it's just the kind of thing I've wanted to see forever. As an atheist, I find the anti-Christian pseudo-history that so many of them (even including some pop scientists and historians) spout embarrassing as a history major. This is a great blog with posts refuting the "lol Christianz burnt down the library of Alexandria and created the dark ages xD" tripe that too many people still recite as gospel (lol).
  • Heidegger 06-20-2018, 11:49 AM
    True. Some people don't get the contribution of Christianism.
    I don't like pop-"scientist" like Dawkins with prepotencious arguments, but of course is not like christianity is a super good thing every time. XD
  • KiMocci 06-21-2018, 04:33 PM
    I don't think I can believe in God. In some ways I think it's far too convenient. Believe in and offer prayer to a giant omnipotent deity and be a good person, and you can have a good life.
    Don't be a good person or believe, you burn forever in eternal damnation. Okay.

    Plus I think this world is far too cruel and unjustified to warrant the existence of a large overseer. If God does actually exist, I think it is just toying with us.
  • Dathmach 07-11-2018, 03:03 PM
    I believe in God for sure. Honestly it seems to be so deeply rooted in me that even in times of despair that never really quite diaapeared. And for the above user, you don't have to be a good person to be saved. You just need to believe that he will save you. The reason why it's so easy is because God did all the work for us.

    Now despite this looking like an arguement, please don't continue it / start one. Arguments about religion rarely have both sides calm. I'd like to avoid any arguements to be perfectly honest.
  • Tang 10-30-2018, 07:12 PM
    I kind of do, but I'm not religious.
  • Inhale 11-02-2018, 12:40 PM
    i am god
  • Marine 09-21-2019, 06:14 PM
    I must believe in two things. That there is existence, and I have the capacity for experience, aka "consciousness". 
    My experiences however are not controlled consciously. I cannot imagine a cat in front of me, and experience all the sensations of a cat being there. 
    My mind feeds me experiences, presumably based on an external information that I interact with. I cannot prove such information exists independent of me however. I also cannot prove my mind's representation of any the apparently external information is accurate. Schizophrenia is great real world example of this. All I know is my mind is feeding me experiences, and I have no control over them.

    I believe "God" is mind, and consciousness is the fundamental substance through which reality exists. Our conscious experience is one of infinite possible conscious states. All conscious states, of all scales and magnitudes exist equally, as a part of a greater unified consciousness, "God". Such a consciousness transcends space and time. The past is equally as "real" as the future, as both are possible conscious states according to their respective natural laws. The collection of all conscious states, of all times, all universes, all realities is what I would consider "God". It is not a being, it is all beings, all things, all that is possible. 

    For such a thing to exist, it must be infinite. If it was finite, then it could be added to. It must be whole. If you could subtract or divide it, then it would not be all of existence. Nothing can influence it, internally or externally, and it must be static. If "God" had desires or emotions, then it must change state, but a change from one state to another means you have multiple distinct states, and it would no longer be all that exists. If "God" was influenced externally, then there must be something that exists independent of all that exists, which is a contradiction. "God" must be static and unchanging, hence why the past, present and future all exist on equal footing. They are all examples of the infinite conscious realities that exist within the single, supreme consciousness. 

    Consciousness for me is the unified whole, "God", experiencing itself. Perhaps I can influence the path I take through the infinite web of conscious states, or maybe my path is set. All I can do is try, and I believe by seeing the world in such a way I am better equipped to confront any challenges that face me in this life.

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Do you believe in god?