Windows 10 to be the last release of Windows

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05-09-2015, 05:29 PM
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Spoiler

Windows 10 is going to be the last major revision of the operating system.
Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software.
His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner".
Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said.
Mr Nixon made his comments during Microsoft's Ignite conference held in Chicago this week.
In a statement, Microsoft said Mr Nixon's comments reflected a change in the way that it made its software.
"Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows.
'No Windows 11'
The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10.
"There will be no Windows 11," warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner who monitors Microsoft.
He said Microsoft had in the past deliberately avoided using the name "Windows 9" and instead chose Windows 10 as a way to signify a break with a past which involved successive stand-alone versions of the operating system.
However, he said, working in that way had created many problems for Microsoft and its customers.
"Every three years or so Microsoft would sit down and create 'the next great OS'," he said.
Minecraft demo
Microsoft has developed the HoloLens augmented reality system for use with Windows 10
"The developers would be locked away and out would pop a product based on what the world wanted three years ago."
Microsoft also had to spend a huge amount of money and marketing muscle to convince people that they needed this new version, and that it was better than anything that had come before, he explained.
Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them, he added.
'Positive step'
Most of the revenue generated by Windows for Microsoft came from sales of new PCs and this was unlikely to be affected by the change, Mr Kleynhans pointed out.
"Overall this is a positive step, but it does have some risks," he said.
"Microsoft will have to work hard to keep generating updates and new features, he said, adding that questions still remained about how corporate customers would adapt to the change and how Microsoft would provide support.
"It doesn't mean that Windows is frozen and will never move forward again," Mr Kleynhans told the BBC.
"Indeed we are about to see the opposite, with the speed of Windows updates shifting into high gear."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32658340

This might lead to a subscription-based OS, which sucks.

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05-09-2015, 05:31 PM
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(05-09-2015, 05:29 PM)Oliver Wrote: This might lead to a subscription-based OS, which sucks.

this is why we can't have nice things

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05-09-2015, 05:32 PM
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(05-09-2015, 05:31 PM)mumu Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 05:29 PM)Oliver Wrote: This might lead to a subscription-based OS, which sucks.

this is why we can't have nice things

Me thinking it sucks? or a subscription-based OS?

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(05-09-2015, 05:32 PM)Oliver Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 05:31 PM)mumu Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 05:29 PM)Oliver Wrote: This might lead to a subscription-based OS, which sucks.

this is why we can't have nice things

Me thinking it sucks? or a subscription-based OS?

#2

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05-09-2015, 05:33 PM
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(05-09-2015, 05:32 PM)mumu Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 05:32 PM)Oliver Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 05:31 PM)mumu Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 05:29 PM)Oliver Wrote: This might lead to a subscription-based OS, which sucks.

this is why we can't have nice things

Me thinking it sucks? or a subscription-based OS?

#2

Oh, I agree.

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05-09-2015, 07:34 PM
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Guess I'll be permanently moving to Linux then. :^)

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05-09-2015, 07:40 PM
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(05-09-2015, 07:34 PM)Senpai Wrote: Guess I'll be permanently moving to Linux then. :^)

I'll either do that or stay on win7.

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05-10-2015, 03:05 AM
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(05-09-2015, 07:40 PM)Oliver Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 07:34 PM)Senpai Wrote: Guess I'll be permanently moving to Linux then. :^)

I'll either do that or stay on win7.

I think I'll move to linux, but keep my Win 7 dual boot.

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05-10-2015, 09:01 AM
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(05-10-2015, 03:05 AM)Senpai Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 07:40 PM)Oliver Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 07:34 PM)Senpai Wrote: Guess I'll be permanently moving to Linux then. :^)

I'll either do that or stay on win7.

I think I'll move to linux, but keep my Win 7 dual boot.

I might buy it just for Cortana ;-;

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05-10-2015, 09:59 PM (This post was last modified: 05-10-2015, 10:03 PM by Lokorfi.)
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I don't expect any less of Microsoft to pull this kind of thing without first expecting a negative backlash from its consumers. 

I mean, seriously? Windows 10 being the last release of Windows? How will we adjust to a possibly even more sophisticated OS? Who knows how much they might remove or change things around in the next one. Hell, they're probably going to change everything and most of us might actually spend time looking through the instruction manual on how to do jack shit. Actually it might not be so bad after all. Who knows?

Anyways, I did a quick search on Google and found a good site for purchasing pre-distributed Linux desktops/laptops, etc. Their products are kinda expensive though, but it would be worth the buy. Here's the link. 

Also, check'em dubs.

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05-10-2015, 10:03 PM (This post was last modified: 05-10-2015, 10:04 PM by Saikou.)
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Good on them. There's no way they could make anything better than Windows 7.
One would expect them to keep being money whores and continue to produce new operating systems, however. Maybe they thought it was too much effort or something.
We're still getting Project Spartan, though. It's going to suck.

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05-10-2015, 10:12 PM
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(05-10-2015, 10:03 PM)Saikou Wrote: We're still getting Project Spartan, though. It's going to suck.
This.

But you never know. It's probably going to improve in the future. It might even be faster than most browsers.

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05-10-2015, 10:17 PM
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(05-10-2015, 09:59 PM)Theo-senpai Wrote: I don't expect any less of Microsoft to pull this kind of thing without first expecting a negative backlash from its consumers. 

I mean, seriously? Windows 10 being the last release of Windows? How will we adjust to a possibly even more sophisticated OS? Who knows how much they might remove or change things around in the next one. Hell, they're probably going to change everything and most of us might actually spend time looking through the instruction manual on how to do jack shit. Actually it might not be so bad after all. Who knows?

Anyways, I did a quick search on Google and found a good site for purchasing pre-distributed Linux desktops/laptops, etc. Their products are kinda expensive though, but it would be worth the buy. Here's the link. 

Also, check'em dubs.
It will probably be something like Mac/iOS updates, where they come every so often and update. You get Cortana, Windows 8 crossed with 7 UI, DirectX12 support and a few other features but still not sure if it's worth a subscription considering I don't have much money. Linux or a hacknitosh might be something worth looking in to if they decide to disable windows 7.

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05-10-2015, 10:24 PM
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To be completely fair, it'd be an effective way of stamping out piracy.

And with one service that they're continually going to be updating, they won't need to do any major releases for quite a long time.

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07-08-2015, 08:02 PM
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(05-09-2015, 05:29 PM)Oliver Wrote:

Spoiler

Windows 10 is going to be the last major revision of the operating system.
Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software.
His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner".
Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said.
Mr Nixon made his comments during Microsoft's Ignite conference held in Chicago this week.
In a statement, Microsoft said Mr Nixon's comments reflected a change in the way that it made its software.
"Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows.
'No Windows 11'
The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10.
"There will be no Windows 11," warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner who monitors Microsoft.
He said Microsoft had in the past deliberately avoided using the name "Windows 9" and instead chose Windows 10 as a way to signify a break with a past which involved successive stand-alone versions of the operating system.
However, he said, working in that way had created many problems for Microsoft and its customers.
"Every three years or so Microsoft would sit down and create 'the next great OS'," he said.
Minecraft demo
Microsoft has developed the HoloLens augmented reality system for use with Windows 10
"The developers would be locked away and out would pop a product based on what the world wanted three years ago."
Microsoft also had to spend a huge amount of money and marketing muscle to convince people that they needed this new version, and that it was better than anything that had come before, he explained.
Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them, he added.
'Positive step'
Most of the revenue generated by Windows for Microsoft came from sales of new PCs and this was unlikely to be affected by the change, Mr Kleynhans pointed out.
"Overall this is a positive step, but it does have some risks," he said.
"Microsoft will have to work hard to keep generating updates and new features, he said, adding that questions still remained about how corporate customers would adapt to the change and how Microsoft would provide support.
"It doesn't mean that Windows is frozen and will never move forward again," Mr Kleynhans told the BBC.
"Indeed we are about to see the opposite, with the speed of Windows updates shifting into high gear."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32658340

This might lead to a subscription-based OS, which sucks.


Well windows 7 is good enough, I have windows 8 but they seem pretty decent to me.
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07-08-2015, 08:03 PM
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(07-08-2015, 08:02 PM)Rain Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 05:29 PM)Oliver Wrote:

Spoiler

Windows 10 is going to be the last major revision of the operating system.
Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software.
His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner".
Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said.
Mr Nixon made his comments during Microsoft's Ignite conference held in Chicago this week.
In a statement, Microsoft said Mr Nixon's comments reflected a change in the way that it made its software.
"Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows.
'No Windows 11'
The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10.
"There will be no Windows 11," warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner who monitors Microsoft.
He said Microsoft had in the past deliberately avoided using the name "Windows 9" and instead chose Windows 10 as a way to signify a break with a past which involved successive stand-alone versions of the operating system.
However, he said, working in that way had created many problems for Microsoft and its customers.
"Every three years or so Microsoft would sit down and create 'the next great OS'," he said.
Minecraft demo
Microsoft has developed the HoloLens augmented reality system for use with Windows 10
"The developers would be locked away and out would pop a product based on what the world wanted three years ago."
Microsoft also had to spend a huge amount of money and marketing muscle to convince people that they needed this new version, and that it was better than anything that had come before, he explained.
Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them, he added.
'Positive step'
Most of the revenue generated by Windows for Microsoft came from sales of new PCs and this was unlikely to be affected by the change, Mr Kleynhans pointed out.
"Overall this is a positive step, but it does have some risks," he said.
"Microsoft will have to work hard to keep generating updates and new features, he said, adding that questions still remained about how corporate customers would adapt to the change and how Microsoft would provide support.
"It doesn't mean that Windows is frozen and will never move forward again," Mr Kleynhans told the BBC.
"Indeed we are about to see the opposite, with the speed of Windows updates shifting into high gear."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32658340

This might lead to a subscription-based OS, which sucks.


Well windows 7 is good enough, I have windows 8 but they seem pretty decent to me.

If the initial reviews of Windows 10 are positive, I might consider updating to it. I can always roll back later.

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07-08-2015, 08:06 PM
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I'll just stick with a lower version.

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07-08-2015, 08:08 PM
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I've always been on windows so I think they would stick in the lead either way.
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Goddammit do I have to get a Mac just to play video games now? ._. I would go Linux but compatibility issues.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see what comes of this. To be honest, all this talk about an ever-changing OS with updates doesn't really sound all that different from what every single OS already does right now.

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07-09-2015, 06:12 AM (This post was last modified: 07-09-2015, 06:13 AM by Aoz.)
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(07-08-2015, 08:03 PM)Lokorfi Wrote:
(07-08-2015, 08:02 PM)Rain Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 05:29 PM)Oliver Wrote:

Spoiler

Windows 10 is going to be the last major revision of the operating system.
Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software.
His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner".
Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said.
Mr Nixon made his comments during Microsoft's Ignite conference held in Chicago this week.
In a statement, Microsoft said Mr Nixon's comments reflected a change in the way that it made its software.
"Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows.
'No Windows 11'
The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10.
"There will be no Windows 11," warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner who monitors Microsoft.
He said Microsoft had in the past deliberately avoided using the name "Windows 9" and instead chose Windows 10 as a way to signify a break with a past which involved successive stand-alone versions of the operating system.
However, he said, working in that way had created many problems for Microsoft and its customers.
"Every three years or so Microsoft would sit down and create 'the next great OS'," he said.
Minecraft demo
Microsoft has developed the HoloLens augmented reality system for use with Windows 10
"The developers would be locked away and out would pop a product based on what the world wanted three years ago."
Microsoft also had to spend a huge amount of money and marketing muscle to convince people that they needed this new version, and that it was better than anything that had come before, he explained.
Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them, he added.
'Positive step'
Most of the revenue generated by Windows for Microsoft came from sales of new PCs and this was unlikely to be affected by the change, Mr Kleynhans pointed out.
"Overall this is a positive step, but it does have some risks," he said.
"Microsoft will have to work hard to keep generating updates and new features, he said, adding that questions still remained about how corporate customers would adapt to the change and how Microsoft would provide support.
"It doesn't mean that Windows is frozen and will never move forward again," Mr Kleynhans told the BBC.
"Indeed we are about to see the opposite, with the speed of Windows updates shifting into high gear."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32658340

This might lead to a subscription-based OS, which sucks.


Well windows 7 is good enough, I have windows 8 but they seem pretty decent to me.

If the initial reviews of Windows 10 are positive, I might consider updating to it. I can always roll back later.

From all the opinions I got from my friends that are using the preview it seems to be pretty decent. Windows 7 support has already dropped too. We are becoming the next xp fags.



I have not read the article but it is probably a marketing tactic. "Windows 10 is so good we are not going to need to release a new OS ever again!"
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(07-09-2015, 06:12 AM)Aoz Wrote:
(07-08-2015, 08:03 PM)Lokorfi Wrote:
(07-08-2015, 08:02 PM)Rain Wrote:
(05-09-2015, 05:29 PM)Oliver Wrote:

Spoiler

Windows 10 is going to be the last major revision of the operating system.
Jerry Nixon, a Microsoft development executive, said in a conference speech this week that Windows 10 would be the "last version" of the dominant desktop software.
His comments were echoed by Microsoft which said it would update Windows in future in an "ongoing manner".
Instead of new stand-alone versions, Windows 10 would be improved in regular instalments, the firm said.
Mr Nixon made his comments during Microsoft's Ignite conference held in Chicago this week.
In a statement, Microsoft said Mr Nixon's comments reflected a change in the way that it made its software.
"Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner," it said, adding that it expected there to be a "long future" for Windows.
'No Windows 11'
The company said it had yet to decide on what to call the operating system beyond Windows 10.
"There will be no Windows 11," warned Steve Kleynhans, a research vice-president at analyst firm Gartner who monitors Microsoft.
He said Microsoft had in the past deliberately avoided using the name "Windows 9" and instead chose Windows 10 as a way to signify a break with a past which involved successive stand-alone versions of the operating system.
However, he said, working in that way had created many problems for Microsoft and its customers.
"Every three years or so Microsoft would sit down and create 'the next great OS'," he said.
Minecraft demo
Microsoft has developed the HoloLens augmented reality system for use with Windows 10
"The developers would be locked away and out would pop a product based on what the world wanted three years ago."
Microsoft also had to spend a huge amount of money and marketing muscle to convince people that they needed this new version, and that it was better than anything that had come before, he explained.
Moving to a situation in which Windows is a constantly updated service will break out of this cycle, and let Microsoft tinker more with the software to test new features and see how customers like them, he added.
'Positive step'
Most of the revenue generated by Windows for Microsoft came from sales of new PCs and this was unlikely to be affected by the change, Mr Kleynhans pointed out.
"Overall this is a positive step, but it does have some risks," he said.
"Microsoft will have to work hard to keep generating updates and new features, he said, adding that questions still remained about how corporate customers would adapt to the change and how Microsoft would provide support.
"It doesn't mean that Windows is frozen and will never move forward again," Mr Kleynhans told the BBC.
"Indeed we are about to see the opposite, with the speed of Windows updates shifting into high gear."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-32658340

This might lead to a subscription-based OS, which sucks.


Well windows 7 is good enough, I have windows 8 but they seem pretty decent to me.

If the initial reviews of Windows 10 are positive, I might consider updating to it. I can always roll back later.

From all the opinions I got from my friends that are using the preview it seems to be pretty decent. Windows 7 support has already dropped too. We are becoming the next xp fags.

Indeed. Soon preloaded W7 will be as rare as XP. :(

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07-09-2015, 09:47 PM
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(07-09-2015, 08:07 AM)Lokorfi Wrote:
(07-09-2015, 06:12 AM)Aoz Wrote:
(07-08-2015, 08:03 PM)Lokorfi Wrote:
(07-08-2015, 08:02 PM)Rain Wrote: Well windows 7 is good enough, I have windows 8 but they seem pretty decent to me.

If the initial reviews of Windows 10 are positive, I might consider updating to it. I can always roll back later.

From all the opinions I got from my friends that are using the preview it seems to be pretty decent. Windows 7 support has already dropped too. We are becoming the next xp fags.

Indeed. Soon preloaded W7 will be as rare as XP. :(

It is already uncommon to see preloaded Win7. Windows have been pushing Win8 so much but I guess they finally realised it was a failure.
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07-12-2015, 05:01 PM
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Guys, I used windows 10 for almost one month, it was amazing but it's fucking cancer sometimes because some bugs, and in the end I lost all my data when windows crashed and I didnt' backup nor changed hard disk from computer to computer to get my data back, I straightly did clean installation and lost all my data xD, but I can vouch windows 10 was so amazing, hopefully they just fix it's bugs in their next full release

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07-12-2015, 05:34 PM
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I'm staying with Wangblowers Windows 7 until it fails me. Never had any problems with it. As good as Windows 10 looks, we had the same initial positive reviews with 8. Cant be bothered to move and end up not liking it immediately or in the future.

As for linux, sorry but it's never getting full mainstream software support ;w;

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can't wait for win10 and directx12

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