What editor do you use?

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06-04-2016, 07:46 PM
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(06-04-2016, 04:16 AM)laifot Wrote: ...


Interesting, pentesting is always a challenge even though a lot of programs exist to help you with your assessments. Is your dbserver on a Virtual Machine?

localhost.

Yeah I am aware of said programs, but I was told that I should try and go manual first, to get the feel of it.
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06-04-2016, 08:48 PM
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(06-04-2016, 07:46 PM)Vader Wrote:
(06-04-2016, 04:16 AM)laifot Wrote: ...


Interesting, pentesting is always a challenge even though a lot of programs exist to help you with your assessments. Is your dbserver on a Virtual Machine?

localhost.

Yeah I am aware of said programs, but I was told that I should try and go manual first, to get the feel of it.
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That is good, it teaches you how to develop a security system for your db.

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06-05-2016, 01:48 AM
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(06-04-2016, 02:22 AM)Vader Wrote:
(06-04-2016, 01:23 AM)laifot Wrote: ...


I'm not a pro but i have a lot of experience in sql databases. what is your demand?

It mostly has to do with pentesting; I don't know the first shit about SQL. Well, I know DROP, but that's the extent of my knowledge. I'll drop a PM some time when a question/situation comes up :3

Let me stop you right there. This is 2016. You are not going to be able to "pentest" anything using SQL that isn't found via some shitty DORK. Every one is using boiler plates/templating frameworks. Jinja 2, Handlebars, Express(node), etc. All of these things sanitize user input *for* the developer.


tl;dr if you're learning SQL to pentest shit(lol hack random sites) then you're going to have a bad time and you're much better off using your time for something that isn't outright retarded.
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06-05-2016, 04:14 AM
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(06-05-2016, 01:48 AM)Hex Wrote:
(06-04-2016, 02:22 AM)Vader Wrote: It mostly has to do with pentesting; I don't know the first shit about SQL. Well, I know DROP, but that's the extent of my knowledge. I'll drop a PM some time when a question/situation comes up :3

Let me stop you right there. This is 2016. You are not going to be able to "pentest" anything using SQL that isn't found via some shitty DORK. Every one is using boiler plates/templating frameworks. Jinja 2, Handlebars, Express(node), etc. All of these things sanitize user input *for* the developer.


tl;dr if you're learning SQL to pentest shit(lol hack random sites) then you're going to have a bad time and you're much better off using your time for something that isn't outright retarded.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA lol

I was thinking if SQL is a prerequisite to SQLi. Besides, sqli's just a starting point for me. I'll build on my skillz from there. Albeit, from an outdated (retarded) base point.

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06-05-2016, 08:11 AM
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Notepad++ and visual studios+visual basic

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06-05-2016, 08:27 AM
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(06-05-2016, 01:48 AM)Hex Wrote:
(06-04-2016, 02:22 AM)Vader Wrote: It mostly has to do with pentesting; I don't know the first shit about SQL. Well, I know DROP, but that's the extent of my knowledge. I'll drop a PM some time when a question/situation comes up :3

Let me stop you right there. This is 2016. You are not going to be able to "pentest" anything using SQL that isn't found via some shitty DORK. Every one is using boiler plates/templating frameworks. Jinja 2, Handlebars, Express(node), etc. All of these things sanitize user input *for* the developer.


tl;dr if you're learning SQL to pentest shit(lol hack random sites) then you're going to have a bad time and you're much better off using your time for something that isn't outright retarded.

Sure, sql is actually outdated and retarded but it still works fine in terms of testing, if he wants to pentest *manually* just for education purposes then it's fine i guess.

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06-05-2016, 06:12 PM
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(06-05-2016, 08:27 AM)laifot Wrote:
(06-05-2016, 01:48 AM)Hex Wrote: Let me stop you right there. This is 2016. You are not going to be able to "pentest" anything using SQL that isn't found via some shitty DORK. Every one is using boiler plates/templating frameworks. Jinja 2, Handlebars, Express(node), etc. All of these things sanitize user input *for* the developer.


tl;dr if you're learning SQL to pentest shit(lol hack random sites) then you're going to have a bad time and you're much better off using your time for something that isn't outright retarded.

Sure, sql is actually outdated and retarded but it still works fine in terms of testing, if he wants to pentest *manually* just for education purposes then it's fine i guess.

I have a hard time validating or enabling someone to "pentest" websites when I know when if given the chance, go much further than simply finding a vuln. Lol.
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06-05-2016, 07:38 PM
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Then, Hex-san, perhaps someday some time, when I get the flow of pentesting (not necessarily because I've learned injecting and finding vulnerable columns), could you be a pentest-sensei?

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09-05-2016, 01:29 AM
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Unixlike: Vim
OSX: Sublime or TextWrangler
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09-05-2016, 03:41 AM
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09-05-2016, 05:17 AM
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Always VIm.
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09-05-2016, 07:04 AM
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(09-05-2016, 05:17 AM)RX14 Wrote: Always VIm.

sublime > vim

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09-05-2016, 07:10 AM
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(09-05-2016, 07:04 AM)Clickbait Wrote:
(09-05-2016, 05:17 AM)RX14 Wrote: Always VIm.

sublime > vim

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09-05-2016, 11:02 AM
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sublime can't be used at the terminal, and looks it's finest with its scrollbars hidden, so on winderp it looks kinda ugly
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09-05-2016, 02:16 PM
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sublime 3 with enough add-ons to make it feel comfy to me
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09-28-2016, 11:37 AM
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If you don't want to spend the time learning a Terminal based editor then yes, your Electron based editors are probably a solid go-to. Atom, VSCode, etc. But if you take the time to actually learn Vim & Tmux, you'll never go back.
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11-09-2016, 12:14 PM
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Vim because I couldn't find any other editor that does rust justice.

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11-09-2016, 02:52 PM
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(11-09-2016, 12:14 PM)loliconnoisseur Wrote: Vim because I couldn't find any other editor that does rust justice.

There is an IntelliJ IDEA plugin that make developing for rust really nice. Sintax, cargo build setups, rustup, etc.
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I use spacemacs now, instead of vim, and I really really love it.

As the quote goes, emacs is "a great operating system, lacking only a decent editor", and the quote has a lot of truth. Evil (vim emulation in emacs) is that wonderful editor. Spacemacs really brings the whole thing together by providing a great out of the box experience, with the excellent discoverability coming from it's key-sequence popups. it also adds a decently-sized repository of "layers" which are opinionated configurations for languages and frameworks that you can just install to get productive in that language asap. Also, the fact that most of your vim ex commands are replaced with key sequences under spacebar is really quite nice. Changing over from vim could be done in one or two weekends, depending on how much of vim you use.

Most of all, emacs is an environment while vim is an editor. The difference is quite clear. Emacs has so many amazing packages and tools which vim simply doesn't. This comes from emacs running lisp almost to it's very core, while vim is an editor written in C with a small scripting layer on top with the considerably less-powerful vim script. For example, magit is an amazingly complete git layer on top of emacs, in spacemacs you use SPC g s to get to a status buffer with untracked files, unpushed/unpulled commits etc. From this you can use keyboard shortcuts to do many actions (c c for commit, F p to pull, l l for log, etc.).

Even more amazing is the tramp package, which lets you use the entirety of the spacemacs environment on a remote computer. For example you can open a dired (text-based file manager thingy) buffer on a remote machine and use exactly the same smooth directory editing you're used to remotely. Even more amazing is that magit works remotely without any setup. You can even chain complicated setups like ssh into this server, then use that to ssh into this other server, then use sudo, then enter this docker container. And then you're running emacs inside a docker container only accessible through a proxy bastion server just like that. Except that you don't actually have emacs installed in that container at all, and you can have as many of these connections into as many different places as you want. And literally all of these wonderful emacs packages *just work* as if you're editing a file locally. All of this magic is possible through emacs lisp being so much more powerful than vimscript.

I see spacemacs has a rust layer, with completion and cargo integration and the like. Spacemacs has a large list of layers which are so easy to install, and are usually well documented so that you don't have to spend hours configuring your editor to get shit done. Compared to vim, i've gotten so much more functionaility and done barely any configuring compared to my 200+ line vimrc.

Oh, I nearly forgot another cool thing with emacs. In vim, if you want to open multiple windows for multiple monitors, you have to open multiple processes, which is really suboptimal. Yanks don't work across windows except for the OS buffers. You can't move tabs or buffers between windows, and if you edit the file in one instance, it will bug out in the other instance. In emacs, all your windows are attached to one central emacs process. You can have the same buffer open on multiple monitors in different places of the file, and edits synchronise instantly between windows. It's so refreshing for this shit to just work.

In short, vim is a tool but emacs is a world, and it's a world i'm oh so very happy to inhabit. PM me if you want to enter it too!

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11-09-2016, 05:22 PM
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(11-09-2016, 04:33 PM)RX14 Wrote: tl;dr religous zealot emacs shilling

i heard that sublime is better

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(11-09-2016, 05:22 PM)Melancholy Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 04:33 PM)RX14 Wrote: tl;dr religous zealot emacs shilling

i heard that sublime is better

only because ur too dumb to learn emacs :3

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11-09-2016, 05:25 PM
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(11-09-2016, 05:25 PM)RX14 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 05:22 PM)Melancholy Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 04:33 PM)RX14 Wrote: tl;dr religous zealot emacs shilling

i heard that sublime is better

only because ur too dumb to learn emacs :3

or i'm smart enough to not waste my time learning something inferior : 3

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11-09-2016, 05:26 PM
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(11-09-2016, 05:25 PM)Melancholy Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 05:25 PM)RX14 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 05:22 PM)Melancholy Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 04:33 PM)RX14 Wrote: tl;dr religous zealot emacs shilling

i heard that sublime is better

only because ur too dumb to learn emacs :3

or i'm smart enough to not waste my time learning something inferior : 3

How can it be inferior when i'm sucking RMS's cock so hard?

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11-09-2016, 05:30 PM
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(11-09-2016, 05:26 PM)RX14 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 05:25 PM)Melancholy Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 05:25 PM)RX14 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 05:22 PM)Melancholy Wrote: i heard that sublime is better

only because ur too dumb to learn emacs :3

or i'm smart enough to not waste my time learning something inferior : 3

How can it be inferior when i'm sucking RMS's cock so hard?

u know it's my cock that u want, slut

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(11-09-2016, 05:30 PM)Melancholy Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 05:26 PM)RX14 Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 05:25 PM)Melancholy Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 05:25 PM)RX14 Wrote: only because ur too dumb to learn emacs :3

or i'm smart enough to not waste my time learning something inferior : 3

How can it be inferior when i'm sucking RMS's cock so hard?

u know it's my cock that u want, slut

no bulli pls

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