(07-15-2015, 06:32 PM)VyraLove Wrote: Wow.. and I thought I had it rough. Hugs CompaIsMyWaifu
I'm agnostic. Or athiest. Or norse/taoist, not sure. I like the norse mythos though. But I guess in all actuality I'm athiest.
So to the above questions:
2. To some degree.
3. Because even though wind is created by the atmosphere and the earth was created by... time, and... stuff, the time and stuff, and, you know.. Had to come from somewhere. Where? No fucking clue.
Jeez, I've never really thought about it that much, but how did time start existing? Is it just an ancient concept? Maybe it's not even real?!
Time is a concept made by a human and if we were to disappear as a species, so would time. It's a hard thing to wrap your head around, but yes, time is not real and simply how we measure things. Every way you use time is a form of measurement and even the concept of stasis is a measurement. Time didn't come from anywhere.
When you start to question the more fundamental constructs of how we function and think, religion or no, things start to get pretty dicey.
(07-16-2015, 01:49 AM)mis Wrote:
(07-16-2015, 01:19 AM)Aoz Wrote: I can not belive in it. I wish I could though. Would give life purpose.
I find purpose in the little things that most people wouldn't appreciate - enjoying a sunrise, complimenting a stranger, donating spare change to the homeless. Things that basically remind you that you, and the people around you, are human.
I was born Catholic, see myself as agnostic. I can see why people would and wouldn't want to adopt religion into their life, and I can respect both sides so long as one doesn't force itself into another.Â My family expects me to attend Sunday massÂ every week and volunteer at my church, but I live my life the way I want to: as a good person to do good things when I can.
Just to extract a little something from your statement being completely aware that's not what you meant:
The biggest thing I take issue with in religious thoughts is that they are the only ones who possess and created moral cores. Blah.
Otherwise, yes. Leave me alone and I'll leave it alone.
(07-16-2015, 04:04 AM)Nanashi Wrote: I myself am a choirboy. You could even call me an acolyte judging by the time I've spent 'serving'. The thing is, I don't really believe in God. I'm some sort of agnostic, who needs to be proven that God does exist to actually believe it. I just find it really odd that people in this day and age are so fixated on the 'higher being'. We're no longer uneducated, unskilled beings, that praised fire because it gave them light and warmth. We know all sorts of things, we can tell where something came from, how it was created or what caused it (for example, wind is created by differences in the pressure on different heights in the atmosphere, causing air to move in bulk,Â being subject also to the Coriolis effect). We are not omnipotent and don't know everything, but the way things go now, I believe everything that goes on around us will get a scientific explanation. Unless some sort of miracle occurs and Christ does come back to judge us all. Very unlikely, but the chance still exists... at least according to the Catholic Church.
Hell, I'm not even sure if me being an agnostic is caused by my own self or rather shaped by the country. You see, I live in Poland, the democratic country where for the past 20 years the ruling party has given church unlimited space forÂ growth and real importance to the country. The church holidays are seen as something unmissable by all means, a significant margin of the money the government gets from people goes to the church and renovations of said places. So yeah, I'm not sure if my state of mind is shaped by myself or rather caused by some natural resistance to what everyone else believes.
I tend to despise when religion has a significant or any hand, really, in government since that's when it starts to interfere with people's lives, whether or not they believe. To make matters worse it may be a foundation for a person who is being raised within said country and should they have conflicting beliefs end up confused whether or not their 'compromise' is their real decision or a heavy influence. The brain is a tricky thing like that.
It seems we want to believe in God because we start seeing patterns in nature, we begin to think things were put there for us to use. Though if that were true we would have far more access to hydroelectricity or some such earlier, no?
I find, and feel free to correct me, that the 'non-believer' train of thought is that things were there and we turned those things into resources.
The 'believer' train of thought (primarily the Christian one, if I may be so bold) things that those thing spawned as resources all along, ignoring that we had to purify or modify many a thing to even be able to give it any use, meaning it was not a resource before.
Blah, might go on a tangent, but my little tidbits.