Android on a Laptop is a Bitch

by Equinox

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09-30-2015, 05:45 PM (This post was last modified: 09-30-2015, 05:46 PM by Equinox.)
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(09-30-2015, 12:29 AM)based_bluetawn Wrote:
(09-27-2015, 02:41 AM)Equinox Wrote:
(09-26-2015, 10:56 PM)based_bluetawn Wrote: Why would you do that? Install linux like antergos or trisquel.

Antergos is okay, but that's because of its arch base, and Gnome + NUmix looks good anyways (at least most of it does). Why would I install either Antergos or Trisquel when I run Arch itself? Also never heard of Trisquel.

Why not use vanilla arch? Because the install process is really really dumb. The difficult install process on arch doesn't justify the distros benefits compared to something like gentoo.
Angergos = ubuntu levels of easy installer + FDE option with arch base and AUR
Trisquel = open source ubuntu redistribution

It's only dumb to those that don't see how good it is. Arch is basically a DIY system, and that's why it has a "really really dumb" install process. It isn't made to be easy, and I'm glad it isn't. You learn so much more from installing arch than you would from installing antergos, or a gui arch installer. And aside from that, I hate ubuntu. Nothing personal with the developers, I just really don't like it.

Let me ask you another question, why would I install either of these if I already have vanilla arch installed?


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09-30-2015, 09:13 PM
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I truly can't stand android.... It's buggy as fuck. That mouse issue you have.... I wonder if it's related to shitty non responsive touch features on mobile devices
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09-30-2015, 11:01 PM
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(09-30-2015, 09:13 PM)suicid3Panda Wrote: I truly can't stand android.... It's buggy as fuck. That mouse issue you have.... I wonder if it's related to shitty non responsive touch features on mobile devices

Mind elaborating? Why is it "buggy as fuck"? The mouse issue is because it's on a computer, not a phone. And the version in the screenshots is 4.something.something. Android 5 is really fluid and nice, no issues at all with it, especially not "shitty non responsive touch features". Mind explaining said non-responsive touch features?



Also I'd prefer not to go as off topic as we did earlier, with the OS debates and what not.


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10-01-2015, 05:55 AM
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>>20811
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> Mind elaborating? Why is it "buggy as fuck"? The mouse issue is because it's on
> a computer, not a phone. And the version in the screenshots is 4.something.something.
> Android 5 is really fluid and nice, no issues at all with it, especially not "shitty
> non responsive touch features". Mind explaining said non-responsive touch features?
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>
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> Also I'd prefer not to go as off topic as we did earlier, with the OS debates and
> what not.

This seemed pretty on topic to me, as I was talking about the mouse response issue that you mentioned in the original post.
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10-01-2015, 06:00 PM
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(10-01-2015, 05:55 AM)suicid3Panda Wrote: >>20811
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>  Mind elaborating? Why is it "buggy as fuck"? The mouse issue is because it's on
>  a computer, not a phone. And the version in the screenshots is 4.something.something.
>  Android 5 is really fluid and nice, no issues at all with it, especially not "shitty
>  non responsive touch features". Mind explaining said non-responsive touch features?
>  
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>  Also I'd prefer not to go as off topic as we did earlier, with the OS debates and
>  what not.

This seemed pretty on topic to me, as I was talking about the mouse response issue that you mentioned in the original post.

You weren't having a debate about operating systems.


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10-02-2015, 12:32 AM
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In programming (of languages i use), commands for clicks and taps are handled identically, so its not odd to consider that the issues may be related. Also, "fluid" is apparently subjective. The current android touch works way better than the orginal, but I will never agree its the superior option. Ive done too many side by side comparisons to believe that.

Anyway, yeah. I wasnt having an os debate, i just made a comment about your original post. Its a forum, not a chat room. I was responding to a specific post, not the most recent one.
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10-02-2015, 09:57 AM
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(10-02-2015, 12:32 AM)suicid3Panda Wrote: In programming (of languages i use), commands for clicks and taps are handled identically, so its not odd to consider that the issues may be related. Also, "fluid" is apparently subjective. The current android touch works way better than the orginal, but I will never agree its the superior option. Ive done too many side by  side comparisons to believe that.

Anyway, yeah. I wasnt having an os debate, i just made a comment about your original post. Its a forum, not a chat room. I was responding to a specific post, not the most recent one.

I never said it was superior (don't know what we'd be comparing it to, iPhone? Sailfish? Mozilla Firefox OS?), I just said that it works better than the original. I also asked you to elaborate said issues, but you really haven't.

Then why did you quote the most recent one? I could understand if maybe there was another part, but you only said one thing and it was that your post seemed on topic.


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10-02-2015, 03:14 PM
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(10-02-2015, 09:57 AM)Equinox Wrote:
(10-02-2015, 12:32 AM)suicid3Panda Wrote: In programming (of languages i use), commands for clicks and taps are handled identically, so its not odd to consider that the issues may be related. Also, "fluid" is apparently subjective. The current android touch works way better than the orginal, but I will never agree its the superior option. Ive done too many side by  side comparisons to believe that.

Anyway, yeah. I wasnt having an os debate, i just made a comment about your original post. Its a forum, not a chat room. I was responding to a specific post, not the most recent one.

I never said it was superior (don't know what we'd be comparing it to, iPhone? Sailfish? Mozilla Firefox OS?), I just said that it works better than the original. I also asked you to elaborate said issues, but you really haven't.

Then why did you quote the most recent one? I could understand if maybe there was another part, but you only said one thing and it was that your post seemed on topic.

I was on my phone the first time and didn't see you full message. I only saw the "plz stay on topic" part. Also, I didn't try to quote anything, I clicked "new reply" if I quoted anything it was unintentional.

And yeah, I was mostly referring to iOS, although I have a windows tablet too, and the touch is great aside from the icons being too small (running full windows on a tablet makes some shit almost un-clickable (the browser close button, the windows start button.) 
Yes, I didn't elaborate because I don't really see how I can without being in person. The fact is, you click on things and nothing happens. It's sporadic. Sometimes you zoom in and zoom out, and it suddenly corrects itself, other times you change the screen orientation and it fixes itself, sometimes you have to close out and restart the app/browser window.  Maybe it's the website, maybe it's the different apps. I don't really know. I just know that it's specific to android.
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10-02-2015, 05:56 PM
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(09-30-2015, 05:45 PM)Equinox Wrote:
(09-30-2015, 12:29 AM)based_bluetawn Wrote:
(09-27-2015, 02:41 AM)Equinox Wrote:
(09-26-2015, 10:56 PM)based_bluetawn Wrote: Why would you do that? Install linux like antergos or trisquel.

Antergos is okay, but that's because of its arch base, and Gnome + NUmix looks good anyways (at least most of it does). Why would I install either Antergos or Trisquel when I run Arch itself? Also never heard of Trisquel.

Why not use vanilla arch? Because the install process is really really dumb. The difficult install process on arch doesn't justify the distros benefits compared to something like gentoo.
Angergos = ubuntu levels of easy installer + FDE option with arch base and AUR
Trisquel = open source ubuntu redistribution

It's only dumb to those that don't see how good it is. Arch is basically a DIY system, and that's why it has a "really really dumb" install process. It isn't made to be easy, and I'm glad it isn't. You learn so much more from installing arch than you would from installing antergos, or a gui arch installer. And aside from that, I hate ubuntu. Nothing personal with the developers, I just really don't like it.

Let me ask you another question, why would I install either of these if I already have vanilla arch installed?

You wouldn't (Unless you are me and lazy and wanted FDE).
You don't learn very much in comparison to gentoo. Arch is baby gentoo with none of the benefits. I get as many benefits installing Arch from CLI as I do Debian.
The difficult install process makes a :le seekrit club" that keeps windows users away from I would argue the most windows "power user" friendly distro out there.
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10-02-2015, 06:16 PM (This post was last modified: 10-02-2015, 06:22 PM by Mew. Edit Reason: typo)
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Trisquel is one of the FSF-approved distros: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

>The difficult install process on arch doesn't justify the distros benefits compared to something like gentoo.


The comparison is not so straightforward. Arch is much easier to install than Gentoo, and the 'benefits' of Gentoo is not necessarily something everyone prefers. So Arch definitely has its place. Also, the whole 'Arch is hard to install' is very misleading. Yeah, it's hard if you've never installed an operating system before, but you if you're a more-or-less skilled Linux user, the intallation is pretty quick and easy.

As for Antergos, my only experience with it was completely failing to keep the installer up and running for long enough to finish the installation process.